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Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Education View Hinge 3: Why is submission an issue if it is about education?

Mike identifies the fatal disconnect between the education view and Paul's mention of submission.

1 Corinthians 11 creation order submission 1 Corinthians 11
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Problem 2 with the cult view: why are questions forbidden if the issue is screaming?

Mike identifies the disconnect between ecstatic behavior and the passage's content about questions.

1 Corinthians 14:35 laleo 1 Corinthians 14:35 questions vs. ecstatic behavior
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 4 analysis: The Utter Silence View

Mike begins analyzing the most strict complementarian view.

utter silence view women's speech prohibition
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The word 'sigao' (keep silent) in 1 Corinthians 14 consistently refers to limited, context-specific silence

Mike examines how the same Greek word for silence is used in the same chapter.

1 Corinthians 14:28 1 Corinthians 14:30 Anthony Thiselton sigao 1 Corinthians 14:28
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Utter Silence View Hinge 2: 1 Corinthians 11 proves women could prophesy publicly in church

Mike presents the strongest challenge to the utter silence view from within the same letter.

1 Corinthians 11:5 1 Corinthians 11:2-6 head coverings 1 Corinthians 11:5 women prophesying
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Tom Schreiner: Paul encourages women to pray and prophesy in church with proper adornment

Mike quotes complementarian scholar Tom Schreiner against the utter silence view.

1 Corinthians 11:16 Tom Schreiner 1 Corinthians 11:16 women's public prayer and prophecy
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The attempted rescue of utter silence: women can prophesy publicly but should not, and must wear coverings if they do

Mike addresses another attempt to reconcile utter silence with 1 Corinthians 11.

1 Corinthians 14 1 Corinthians 11 1 Corinthians 14 1 Corinthians 11 utter silence view rescue attempt
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

View 5 analysis: The Judging Prophecy View -- Mike's preferred interpretation

Mike presents the increasingly common complementarian view that the passage restricts women from judging/testing prophecy.

church authority judging prophecy view testing prophecy
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Judging Prophecy Hinge 1: Was testing prophecy a real practice in the early church?

Mike establishes that testing/judging prophecy was indeed a regular church practice.

1 John 4:1 1 Corinthians 12:10 1 John 4:1 testing prophecy 1 Corinthians 12:10
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Judging Prophecy Hinge 2: The passage's structure mirrors tongues/interpretation with prophecy/judging

Mike shows how 1 Corinthians 14's structure supports the judging prophecy view.

1 Corinthians 14:29 1 Corinthians 14:6-28 1 Corinthians 14:29 1 Corinthians 14:6-28 structural parallel
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

D.A. Carson's structural analysis: verse 29 maps the two-part expansion

Mike quotes Carson's explanation of how verse 29 introduces the two topics expanded in what follows.

1 Corinthians 14:29-36 D.A. Carson 1 Corinthians 14:29-36 structural analysis
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The 'spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets' means self-control, not a hierarchy

Mike interprets verse 32 as a parenthetical about prophets' ability to control themselves.

1 Corinthians 14:32 hupotasso 1 Corinthians 14:32 prophetic self-control
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Only the judging prophecy view properly accounts for the prophetic context running through the entire passage

Mike shows prophecy is the continuous context from verse 29 through the end of the chapter.

1 Corinthians 14:37 1 Corinthians 14:39-40 1 Corinthians 14:37 1 Corinthians 14:39-40 prophetic context
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Debate over who judges prophecy: prophets, elders, or everyone?

Mike addresses the objection that it was prophets, not elders, who judged prophecy.

1 Corinthians 14:29 eldership Craig Keener 1 Corinthians 14:29
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Problems with the 'other prophets judge prophecy' view

Mike argues against the interpretation that only other prophets test prophecy.

1 Corinthians 12:10 1 Corinthians 14:1 1 Corinthians 14:39 1 Corinthians 12:10 1 Corinthians 14:1 1 Corinthians 14:39
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Women can have the gift of discernment but are restricted in its public exercise during church governance

Mike addresses the objection that his view means women cannot have a spiritual gift.

1 Corinthians 12:10 1 Corinthians 12:10 gift of discernment church governance
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Judging Prophecy Hinge 3: Why are questions forbidden? Questions as a way to control the judging process

Mike addresses the potentially weakest point of the judging prophecy view -- the prohibition on asking questions.

1 Corinthians 14:35 judging prophecy view 1 Corinthians 14:35 questions as control
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Summary of why the judging prophecy view is superior: answering all four key questions

Mike walks through the advantages of the judging prophecy view over all other views.

1 Timothy 3 1 Corinthians 11 Titus 1 1 Timothy 3 1 Corinthians 11 Titus 1
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Side issue: Does this passage address women in general or wives specifically?

Mike briefly addresses whether 'women' (gunai) should be translated as 'wives.'

1 Corinthians 14:35 1 Corinthians 14:35 gune (woman/wife) women vs. wives debate
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Brief refutation of the 'women as teachers' interpretation

Mike quickly dismisses the view that 'keep silent' refers to women teaching.

1 Corinthians 14 context women teaching view 1 Corinthians 14 context
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Conclusion 1: Women can prophesy and speak in public church gatherings with role qualifications

Mike begins his six conclusions from this study.

1 Corinthians 11 head coverings role differences 1 Corinthians 11
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Conclusion 2: Women have no restrictions on learning

Mike notes that Paul's instruction actually preserves women's right to pursue knowledge.

1 Corinthians 14:35 1 Corinthians 14:35 women's education Jewish education debates
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Pillar 1: Male headship and female submission in marriage — pre-fall creational realities

Mike details the first pillar with five pre-fall evidences from Genesis 2.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:8-9 1 Timothy 2:12-13 creation order Genesis 2 male headship
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Adam bears primary responsibility for sin — 1 Corinthians 15:22 and Romans 5:14-19

Mike argues Adam's greater representational role and accountability shows his greater authority.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 15:22 Romans 5:14-19 ezer Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 15:22
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Additional evidence: Titus 1:6, male-only apostles, biblical rules about NT prophecy

Mike stacks additional scriptural evidence for Pillar 2.

1 Corinthians 14 Titus 1:6 1 Corinthians 14 apostleship Titus 1:6
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

The flow from creation to marriage to eldership suggests principles are not totally isolated

Mike argues the softest complementarian view of totally isolated rules seems artificial.

1 Timothy 2:12-14 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 1 Timothy 2:12-14 1 Corinthians 14:33-35 creation to marriage to ministry
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Women prophesying congregationally in the Bible — some speech to mixed groups is permitted

Mike uses biblical prophecy as evidence women can speak in congregational settings.

1 Corinthians 11 Luke 2 Acts 21 Deborah 1 Corinthians 11 women prophesying
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

1 Corinthians 14:29-35 — women silent in judging prophecy, not silent in general

Mike interprets the controversial silence passage.

1 Corinthians 11 John MacArthur 1 Corinthians 14:29-35 1 Corinthians 11 John MacArthur judgment of prophecy
Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Paul's consistent teaching across all churches

Mike argues that Paul's restrictions on women in church leadership were not unique to Ephesus but applied universally.

1 Corinthians 11:16 1 Corinthians 7:17 1 Corinthians 4:17 Pauline consistency 1 Corinthians 11:16 universal application
Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Adam and Eve appeal: creation order argument (1 Tim 2:13)

Mike examines Paul's use of 'For Adam was formed first, then Eve' as the basis for his restriction.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:8-9 1 Timothy 2:13 creation order Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:8-9
Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Summary of positive evidence for the Messianic view

Mike lists the accumulated arguments in favor of his preferred interpretation.

Genesis 3:15 1 Timothy 2:4-6 Galatians 4 converging evidence Messianic interpretation Genesis 3:15
Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Paul's love of OT typology supports a typological reading of childbearing

Mike provides one more example of Paul's typological interpretation of the OT.

1 Corinthians 10:1-4 Pauline typology 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 OT typology
Mike Winger idea 2023-11-22

Application of the Messianic view: women are equal in salvation, different in role

Mike explains what his preferred interpretation means for the overall passage.

Galatians 3:28 1 Peter 3:7 1 Corinthians 11:11-12 complementarianism Galatians 3:28 1 Peter 3:7
Mike Winger idea 2018-01-10

JW claim: Jesus resurrected as spirit, not bodily

Foundation of the JW invisible return theology

1 Corinthians 15:45 1 Peter 3:18 John 14:19 1 Corinthians 15:45 1 Peter 3:18 John 14:19
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-14

Q&A: 1 Corinthians 13:2 — 'if I have all faith but no love I am nothing' — is this faith + love = salvation?

Viewer question about 1 Corinthians 13 and whether it implies faith plus love for salvation

1 Corinthians 13:2 Paul saving faith 1 Corinthians 13:2
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-14

Distinction between saving faith and faith for miracles — 1 Corinthians 13 is about the latter

Type distinction within the concept of faith

1 Corinthians 13 saving faith love charismatic gifts
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-21

Q&A — Revelation 21:27 and the need for purification before heaven: answered by 1 Corinthians 15

Viewer challenge: doesn't Revelation 21:27 ('nothing impure can enter the New Jerusalem') support the need for purgatory?

1 Corinthians 15 Revelation 21:27 1 Corinthians 15 glorification purgatory
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-21

Q&A — New bodies and the New Earth: souls wait, bodies come later at the resurrection

Eschatology question on timing of resurrection bodies

1 Corinthians 15 Revelation 1 Corinthians 15 eschatology Revelation
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-21

Q&A — Sequence of events: go to heaven first, receive new bodies later at the future resurrection (1 Corinthians 15)

Follow-up on eschatological sequence — heaven, judgment, glorification, new earth

1 Corinthians 15 1 Corinthians 15 eschatology resurrection
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

Mass hallucination theory refuted by fact I: hallucinations are individual, not shared; 1 Corinthians 15 cites 500 simultaneous witnesses

Systematic refutation of the mass hallucination theory

1 Corinthians 15 1 Corinthians 15 resurrection Richard Carrier
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

Carrier teaches that in 1 Corinthians 15, Paul describes events that occurred in outer space — a cosmic/celestial resurrection rather than an earthly one

Carrier's interpretation of the Pauline resurrection kerygma

1 Corinthians 15 1 Corinthians 15 resurrection Paul the Apostle
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

1 Corinthians 15:3-7 is the earliest resurrection record — within five years of the crucifixion and agreed upon by over 90% of scholars

Q&A — response to George Cook's question about the earliest scriptural record of the resurrection

1 Corinthians 15 James brother of Jesus Cephas/Peter 1 Corinthians 15 resurrection
Mike Winger idea 2018-03-28

Five years is not enough time for legendary development — the 500-witness claim makes legendary embellishment implausible

Mike's argument against legendary development theory using the early dating of 1 Corinthians 15

1 Corinthians 15 1 Corinthians 15 resurrection legendary growth
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

The early church gathered on both the Sabbath and Sunday (first day of the week) — Acts 20:7 shows Sunday communion; Kim tries to explain this away as a once-a-year event

Mike presents early church gathering patterns; Kim's rebuttal in his book.

Acts 20:7 1 Corinthians 10:16 Lord's Supper Sabbath Acts 20:7
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

1 Corinthians 16:2 shows early Christians gathering on the first day of the week; Kim claims this proves they went to work that day, not that they worshiped

Mike cites 1 Corinthians 16:2 — 'on the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up' — as further evidence of Sunday gathering.

1 Corinthians 16:2 proof-texting Sunday worship 1 Corinthians 16:2
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-22

CoG's 'Passover' is identical to ordinary Christian Communion — the only differences are calling it 'Passover,' requiring women to wear veils, and holding it on a secret date

After two months of research and speaking with former members, Mike determined what CoG actually does at Passover.

1 Corinthians 11:24-26 Lord's Supper World Mission Society Church of God information control
Mike Winger idea 2018-08-16

Winger openly admits he uses reason to discover truth but not to determine it; Sye argues this distinction shows reason is not autonomous — which is the presup point

Discussion of autonomous reason vs. God-dependent reason

1 Corinthians 15 1 Corinthians 15 presuppositional apologetics autonomous reason
Mike Winger idea 2018-11-07

Winger addresses the claim that Paul's 'not with words of eloquent wisdom' (1 Cor 1:17) condemns the use of apologetics. He argues this is a misreading: Paul is saying his persuasion was not merely rhetorical — the gospel itself had power in Corinth. Acts shows Paul regularly reasoning and persuading. Apologetics serves as a 'crowbar' to open doors, but the gospel message itself is what saves.

1 Corinthians 1 hermeneutics evangelism gospel
Mike Winger idea 2019-03-20

1 Corinthians 15:5 — Paul knows Jesus had twelve special disciples, including Peter (Cephas)

Paul's knowledge of Jesus's inner circle of disciples establishes biographical familiarity.

1 Corinthians 15:5 post-resurrection appearances 1 Corinthians 15:5 the twelve disciples
Mike Winger idea 2019-03-20

1 Corinthians 15:3-8 — the resurrection creed: appearances to Peter, the twelve, 500+, James, all apostles, and Paul

The full resurrection appearance list in 1 Corinthians 15 as evidence Paul knew the historical Jesus and the witnesses to his resurrection.

1 Corinthians 15:3-8 James (brother of Jesus) Paul the Apostle post-resurrection appearances resurrection creed