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Mike Winger idea 2022-03-07

Video 8 will cover 1 Corinthians 14 — women being silent in the church.

Series overview and roadmap

1 Cor 14 women silent in church
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

Broader context of 1 Corinthians 11-14 confirms it is about gathered worship: Lord's Supper and spiritual gifts in church

Mike appeals to the wider literary context to confirm his reading.

1 Corinthians 11:17-34 1 Corinthians 12-14 1 Corinthians 14:3-4 1 Corinthians 11:17-34 1 Corinthians 12-14 1 Corinthians 14:3-4
Mike Winger idea 2022-05-30

Claim 2 analysis: Prophecy is similar enough to teaching that women should be able to teach in mixed gatherings

Mike now analyzes the second egalitarian claim from women prophesying.

1 Corinthians 14:31 soft complementarianism 1 Corinthians 14:31 prophecy and teaching
Mike Winger idea 2022-08-15

Biblical justifications for wifely submission vs slave obedience are completely different

Mike lists the actual biblical reasons for each and compares them.

Titus 2:5 1 Corinthians 14:34 1 Corinthians 11:3 creation order Titus 2:5 1 Corinthians 14:34
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 as a highly controversial passage

Mike reads the passage and acknowledges modern readers will find it offensive, but states his main concern is understanding what it actually means in context.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 biblical authority 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 women's silence in church
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Christian obligation to receive and understand scripture fully

Mike states his commitment to believing and supporting what scripture teaches, even on difficult topics.

biblical authority biblical inerrancy
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Overview of the egalitarian vs. complementarian debate

Mike frames the two polar opposite positions on women in ministry as context for the five views he will present.

complementarianism egalitarianism gender roles
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 1: The Interpolation View

Mike introduces the first of five views, which argues these verses do not belong in the Bible at all.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 textual criticism 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 interpolation theory
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 2: The Quotation-Refutation View

Mike introduces the view that Paul is quoting the Corinthians and then refuting them in verse 36.

1 Corinthians 14:36 quotation-refutation view 1 Corinthians 14:36
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 3: The Education/Clatter View

Mike introduces a cluster of related views that shift the focus from women per se to education or disruptive behavior.

education view clatter view Dionysus cult
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 4: The Utter Silence View

Mike introduces the most strict complementarian view, which limits women from nearly all public speech in church.

complementarianism utter silence view women's speech in church
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 5: The Judging Prophecy View (Mike's own view)

Mike introduces his preferred interpretation, which limits the silence command specifically to the testing/judging of prophecy.

complementarianism judging prophecy view testing prophecy
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Mike's personal bias toward egalitarianism and honest methodology

Mike admits he approached this study hoping to find the Bible supports egalitarianism, influenced by feminist culture and evangelistic motivations.

personal bias feminist culture evangelism
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Outline of the teaching: hinge points for each view

Mike explains his format for analyzing each view through key 'hinge points' that each view depends upon.

textual criticism hinge points methodology
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Interpolation View Hinge 1: No manuscript lacks these verses

Mike examines the manuscript evidence and finds that not a single manuscript omits 1 Corinthians 14:34-35.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 1 Corinthians 14:40 textual criticism 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 manuscript evidence
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The relocation of verses to after verse 40 in some manuscripts

Mike explains that while no manuscripts omit the verses, some relocate them after verse 40.

1 Corinthians 14:40 textual criticism 1 Corinthians 14:40 manuscript relocation
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The UBS apparatus rates these verses as 'almost certain' to be authentic

Mike explains the UBS (United Bible Societies) critical apparatus and its rating of these verses.

textual criticism manuscript evidence UBS (United Bible Societies)
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Anthony Thiselton's summary of the manuscript evidence

Mike quotes scholar Anthony Thiselton summarizing which manuscripts have the verses in which location.

Anthony Thiselton P46 manuscript D
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The displacement manuscripts likely derive from a single source

Mike explains that the handful of manuscripts with relocated verses may trace back to one scribal change.

textual criticism Gordon Fee A.C. Wire
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

A.C. Wire's analysis showing the displacement manuscripts are connected

Wire demonstrated that every displacement manuscript is either a Greek-Latin bilingual or Latin text with traceable connections.

manuscript D manuscript F manuscript G
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Manuscript 88 is a 12th-century copy and carries little weight

Mike addresses the outlier manuscript 88 which does not fit the same connected manuscript tradition.

textual criticism manuscript 88 A.C. Wire
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Conclusions from manuscript evidence: most scholars rightly reject interpolation

Mike summarizes what the manuscript evidence teaches about the authenticity of the passage.

Bruce Metzger manuscript evidence scribal alteration
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Bruce Metzger's explanation for the manuscript displacement

Mike quotes Metzger's view that the relocation was a scribal attempt to improve the passage's flow.

Bruce Metzger scribal alteration
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Key facts: earliest displacement is 4th century; earliest attestation is circa 200 AD in traditional spot

Mike presents the timeline evidence favoring the traditional placement.

P46 Ambrosiaster scripture integrity
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

J.M. Ross quote: we must accept unanimous manuscript testimony

Mike quotes Ross on the obligation to accept what all manuscripts attest.

manuscript evidence J.M. Ross scholarly bias
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Interpolation View Hinge 2: Does the passage fit Pauline style?

Mike transitions to the second hinge point -- arguments that the passage does not match Paul's writing style.

1 Corinthians 12-14 1 Corinthians 12-14 interpolation theory Pauline style
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Style Argument 1: Verses differ from the main theme of 1 Corinthians 12-14 -- rebutted

Mike refutes the claim that these verses do not fit the theme of chapters 12-14.

1 Corinthians 14:40 1 Corinthians 14:40 Pauline style church order
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Four key Greek terms in verses 34-35 prove consistency with Pauline style

Mike identifies four Greek terms in the disputed verses that appear throughout 1 Corinthians 14.

1 Corinthians 14:28 1 Corinthians 14:30 Pauline style laleo sigao
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Two more key terms: 'en ekklesia' and 'hupotasso' found throughout the context

Mike continues demonstrating the passage's consistency with its surrounding context using Greek terms.

1 Corinthians 14:28 1 Corinthians 14:32 hupotasso Pauline style 1 Corinthians 14:28
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Style Argument 2: The passage interrupts the flow of instructions about prophets -- rebutted

Mike addresses the claim that these verses break the flow of the prophecy discussion.

judging prophecy view flow of argument prophecy section
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Textual criticism principle: the reading that explains the other readings is likely original

Mike applies a standard textual criticism principle to the manuscript evidence.

lectio difficilior textual criticism principles
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Style Argument 3: The verses logically contradict 1 Corinthians 11:5

Mike addresses the argument that these verses contradict Paul's earlier allowance of women prophesying.

1 Corinthians 11:5 1 Corinthians 11:5 logical contradiction argument women prophesying
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Assuming contradiction rather than seeking harmony in ancient texts shows hubris

Mike critiques the tendency to declare contradictions rather than seeking to understand how passages fit together.

Genesis 1-2 Genesis 1-2 hermeneutical humility biblical harmonization
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Style Argument 4: Paul would never appeal to the law to endorse church discipline -- rebutted

Mike addresses the claim that Paul's reference to 'the law' in verse 34 is un-Pauline.

appeal to the law law and Christian behavior Andy Stanley
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Paul appeals to the law in 1 Corinthians 9:8-11 as a direct counterexample

Mike provides a clear example of Paul using the OT law to establish principles for Christian behavior.

1 Corinthians 9:8-11 Deuteronomy 25:4 1 Corinthians 9:8-11 Deuteronomy 25:4 ministerial support
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Style Argument 5: The phrase 'churches of the saints' is un-Pauline -- rebutted

Mike addresses the claim that the phrase 'churches of the saints' is not a phrase Paul would use.

1 Corinthians 1:2 Pauline style ekklesia saints
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The interpolation view is reckless and threatens all of scripture

Mike gives his overall assessment of the interpolation view.

Gordon Fee interpolation theory scripture integrity
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

D.A. Carson's assessment of Gordon Fee's interpolation argument

Mike quotes Carson's famous evaluation of Fee's position on this passage.

Gordon Fee interpolation theory D.A. Carson
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

View 2 analysis: The Quotation-Refutation View and Beth Allison Barr's promotion of it

Mike begins analyzing the quotation-refutation view, noting Beth Allison Barr as a key proponent.

Beth Allison Barr The Making of Biblical Womanhood quotation-refutation view
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The RSV does not actually support the quotation-refutation view

Mike argues that the RSV translators were not trying to communicate what Barr claims.

1 Corinthians 14:33b Beth Allison Barr RSV translation 1 Corinthians 14:33b
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The Livy quotation parallel does not hold up under scrutiny

Mike examines Barr's claim that 1 Corinthians 14 echoes a secular quote from Livy.

Beth Allison Barr The Making of Biblical Womanhood Livy
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Extended analysis of the Livy passage shows different concepts than 1 Corinthians 14

Mike reads the broader Livy context to show it concerns political lobbying, not learning.

Livy political lobbying learning vs. requesting
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Greek hinge point: The disjunctive particle 'e' (eta) in verse 36

Mike examines the Greek word translated 'what' or 'or' in verse 36 that carries the entire weight of the refutation argument.

1 Corinthians 14:36 quotation-refutation view 1 Corinthians 14:36 e/eta (disjunctive particle)
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Paul never addresses the specific content he allegedly refutes

Mike highlights that if Paul is refuting verses 34-35, he never actually addresses any of the specific claims.

quotation-refutation view Pauline refutation style
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Walter Kaiser's argument from Thayer's lexicon and D.A. Carson's correction

Mike examines Walter Kaiser's 1986 Christianity Today article supporting the refutation view.

D.A. Carson e/eta (disjunctive particle) Walter Kaiser
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The disjunctive particle 'e' reinforces rather than refutes what precedes it, shown from Romans 3:28-29

Mike demonstrates how the Greek particle functions using Romans 3:28-29 as an example.

Romans 3:28-29 e/eta (disjunctive particle) Romans 3:28-29 rhetorical reinforcement
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

D.A. Carson: every NT use of this particle in analogous constructions reinforces what precedes it

Mike presents Carson's comprehensive conclusion about the Greek particle.

Matthew 20:15 D.A. Carson e/eta (disjunctive particle) Thayer's lexicon
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The masculine gender of 'only' (monous) in verse 36 does not prove it addresses men specifically

Mike addresses the argument that the masculine word 'only' proves Paul is rebuking men, not the whole church.

1 Corinthians 14:36 1 Corinthians 14:36 D.A. Carson monous
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Pauline style argument for the refutation view: three points that fail

Mike addresses three ways proponents claim Paul would not have said what is in verses 34-35.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:8-10 Genesis 2 Gordon Fee Pauline style
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Paul already cited the relevant OT passages in 1 Corinthians 11

Mike explains why Paul does not quote a specific OT verse when saying 'as the law also says' in 14:34.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:8-10 creation order Genesis 2 appeal to the law
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