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Mark, > This is a massive debate which we have barely touched on, so i hope you can appreciate why i had to probe your view since it was producing a contradiction in the word. But it is good to see y

Mark, I missed your Bible references on your post. Sorry. I have been copying and pasting sections for comment and for some reason I must have been interrupted and didn’t finish reading that one post

Mark, Thanks for your quick response. You said: > It is important to note that the atonement is the ‘canceling’ of our debt. That is, Jesus took our sin and the punishment for our sin onto his shou

Mark, > Not true! Moses wrote this and God used him to record what God wanted recorded. It in no ways makes it deceptive. I’m sure you will realise this once you get a chance to do some research on i

#28 Mark, Sorry for the slowness. I am trying to slow down some as ministry work has taken up so much time and I am working on my first book. It isn’t easy to carve out a few hours at a time and whe

Mark, you said: > Thankyou for your comments. A few points… you are correct that the verb to be in verse 1 is a present participle- I missed that and I’m glad you corrected me. However this does not

Mark, You said: > I never said i was a greek scholar…far from it. Look at your comment #354. You said: > As a greek scholar I am surprised at your comments. This is written as you claiming to be

Mark, You said: > You can’t say that the woman’s seed (in the context) is victorious over the serpents-so whether you translate it crush, strike, bruise etc you must do the same for both. Yes, I a

Mark, You said: > People can only recieve eternal life by being reconciled in Christ. That is precisely why ‘life’ can only be ‘given’ to God’s elect, because only God’s elect have their sins ‘aton

Mark, You said: > I would like to know how you think that ‘dead people’ can respond to God. “Dead” is a metaphor. We know that “dead” people can bury the dead. They can eat, drink, be merry and th

Don, You said: > “We see examples of this truncation in Jonah, where he gives no escape clause in his warning, yet they escape;” While we do not have the words quoted from Jonah, we can know for su

Mark, you said: > Such far, you are failing heavily to read the context and have approached both [Eph 2:1](logos4:///Bible/Eph 2.1), and [Rom 6:11](logos4:///Bible/Ro 6.11) with a preconcieved ideas

I received an email from a friend who was interested in dialogging on the issue of sin but didn’t want to post on the blog so I am going to address their concerns/questions to me here for everyone to

#97 Mark, > By the way let me be clear that i do not think that non-calvinists are not Christians. I myself was not always convinced of reformed theology but i would never have said i wasn’t saved. N

Mark, > Have you now changed your view from saying they couldn’t speak His name to now they could, but the full revelation of what that meant didn’t come until [Exodus 3](logos4:///Bible/Ex 3)? If so

bgk #54, > The carageenan in my ice cream comes from seaweed, but I don’t know if it has seeds.  Very cute!  And a mighty fine sense of h

to continue with gengwall’s comments: > On “desire” – we continue to use that word because it is in all the modern translations, but we all know that “desire” is somewhat inadequate. The correct term

Mark #337 It will likely take me awhile to answer your comments. My time is limited once again as tomorrow my son arrives with his new fiancée whom we have not yet met so I will want to spend time wi

Thanks for your participation Mark on our dialog on [John 6](logos4:///Bible/Jn 6). We did start with a little bit from [John 5](logos4:///Bible/Jn 5) to set the stage. You mentioned that the Jews wa

Susanna, You said: > the comps are arguing that only Adam was called by God. This is the central argument which supports the beliefs that > > 1. The man was created to lead the woman > 2. The woma

Craig, You said: > Is it > “usurp the authority of an accepted/authorized teacher before you yourself have been authorized” > as Kristen has put forward or to “dominate” as I think you believe.

Mark you said: > Now Cheryl claimed that no such ‘additional grammar’ in [Eph 2](logos4:///Bible/Eph 2) shows that Paul means a past condition. However in verse 2 is a very clear grammatical feature-

Mark you said: > By the way here are some true representations of what the Present Greek Tense denotes or means… The durative (linear or progressive) in the present stem: the action is represented as

Gazza, You said: > The [Romans 6](logos4:///Bible/Ro 6) passage dosn’t actually say anyone is dead now rather that the believers should “count themselves dead to sin” Paul then explains what being

NN, You said: > To reiterate – we are agreed that Christ (in human form) had authority and that Christ now has authority – in fact All authority (irregardless of its origin). May I rewrite this to

#24 Frank, Sorry that I am so slow at getting to some of these comments. > Years ago, when I studied both prophecy and prophetic ministry in the NT, it became apparent to me, as I made a comparativ

Now concerning Mark’s answers about Eve not being banished from the garden. Mark, you said: > 1. First of all, we need to remember that this verse is within the corpus of punishment and curse. Ther

Hi Kristen, While I was working on my response, you responded to Craig which I did not see. I have only a little time left this morning, so I will answer this one and then have to leave. You said:

Mark you said: > So although this may seem messy to many people with all the technical stuff let me conclude. First the perfect indicate verb can take either past, present or future meaning depending

Gazza, One more comment on the present tense. Jesus said in [John 8:58](logos4:///Bible/Jn 8.58)- > [John 8:58](logos4:///Bible/Jn 8.58) (NASB) > 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to yo

Mark, you wrote quoting me and then answered: > “So the $64,000 dollar question is why did God inspire [Ephesians 2:1](logos4:///Bible/Eph 2.1) in the present tense and not the imperfect tense which

Mark, You said: > Please don’t slay me for my spelling mistakes ‘tote’ and ‘present indicate’. They are just spelling mistakes, there is not need to go overboard. I think that we can have a lot mo

Mark you said: > [Mat 13:44](logos4:///Bible/Mt 13.44) “Again the kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and hid; and for joy over it he goes and sells all that he ha

Mark you said: > You can give your interpretation of a passage and that is fine, but do not mishandle how the greek can actually function in a given context. To do so is not a good thing to do. I ha

Dear Captain Planet (cool name!) I agree that most egalitarians do not preach on the hard passages of Scripture like [1 Timothy 2:12-15](logos4:///Bible/1Ti 2.12-15) but I am different. Here is why.

Mark, You mention my lack of Greek exegesis on [Eph 4:11](logos4:///Bible/Eph 4.11). Well let me enlighten you so that we can be on the same page. The grammar of [Eph 4:11](logos4:///Bible/Eph 4.11)

#20 Chris, You said: > Here a command is given to the congregation. The pronoun ‘she’ refers to ‘a woman’, but the command isn’t just for one specific woman, it is for all women. This is no proble

John, I am afraid that you are protesting too much without a shred of evidence offered.  You said: > Again you are making a declarative statement that is false. > > Again “The Law” only refers to th

Mark you quoted me and then said: > “[Ephesians 2:8, 9](logos4:///Bible/Eph 2.8,9) is not talking about faith as a gift because the term is singular and faith is said to be the thing that the gift (s

Mark, I would like to add some comments to your exegesis of [John 6:26-30](logos4:///Bible/Jn 6.26-30) because you missed some things. > [John 6:25–26](logos4:///Bible/Jn 6.25-26) (NASB) > 25 Whe

gengwall, I am very pleased that you are allowing yourself to be open about Eve not having sinned in rebellion after the fall. > Either [Gen 3:16](logos4:///Bible/Ge 3.16) is exclusively about Adam

Mark you said: > Second point, not all are ‘able’ to receive Christ. People are blind ([2 Cor 4:4](logos4:///Bible/2Co 4.4)). But people are blind for several reasons. One of the reasons is that the

#66 Mark, I am just going to bed so I am going to pick just one of your comments for tonight and catch the rest as I can hopefully tomorrow. > My point though was simply that exegetically, reading

Peter, I have walked through your case and find no evidence that the actions of the crowd define the meaning of the words of Jesus to be a physical looking at, a physical following. You wrote: It is m

Mark, I am going to try to get through as much of your questions as I can before I have to leave. > 2. In [Gen 2](logos4:///Bible/Ge 2) there is the introduction of the definate article so it is rig

Mark, You also answered Kay that a widow who was older ([1 Timothy 5:9-12](logos4:///Bible/1Ti 5.9-12)) could be nothing more than one who needed financial support. I would like to differ with this

#44 CLC, You said: > 2. Second, my NIV translation makes it seem like only women fell into sin: “14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.” We all

Hi allennelson4, You said: I’m saying you can break it down like this, “work for the food that endures to eternal life which I will give to you” That’s connected. It is connected, but it isn’t connect

Mark, You said: > If you look closely at the Hebrew in [Genesis 3](logos4:///Bible/Ge 3), there is nothing in the grammar to suggest that Eve’s motive’s were good and Adam’s bad. Actually I just p

@Mark #43 > I would have thought that an exegesis based on one’s own un supported grammtical interpretation would be a hole to begin with…a major hole. Unsupported? No true at all but seems to be yo

Peter, Your case as presented is that in [John 6](logos4:///Bible/Jn 6) the term “coming” is a physical coming that means a physical following Jesus so that those people whom Jesus is talking about in

Martin, Here are a couple: > Inscriptional Evidence for Women as Leaders in the Ancient Synagogue: SBLSP 20, ’81, 4; B’s rendering: ‘Here lies Sara Ura, elder [or aged woman]’; > Arndt, W., Danke

Mark, You said: > Again you have not dealt with any precise exegetical arguments i have raised. Please deal with them. > > I have not talked about hiding sin, only you have. Well, Mark, that appea

Don, You said: > #2 “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.” Ralph Waldo Emerson does not explain the difference between foolish and wise consistency. Who are we to say that it is

Mark, You said: > [Mat 3:2](logos4:///Bible/Mt 3.2) “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.” > Now is he talking about heaven Cheryl? kingdom of **heaven** Sure seems like he is talking a

Mark, You said: > By the way i did just a quick bit of research to see whether your claim that no lexicons prove my point about the word ‘world’, and unfortunately for you your wrong. > > For examp

gengwall, I think it would be helpful for us to define our terms because some reading this blog may not understand what we mean by “ruling” people. We must look to scripture to see what the context i

Mark, To continue on with your comments: > And, finally, she minimizes her privileges by proclaiming “we may eat” of the fruit of the trees; God had said that they “may eat freely” from the trees (

Anon y mous, Welcome to my blog and to this conversation! You said: > We didn’t all sin “in” Adam. Death spread to all men because all sinned. Adam, whose name means humanity, is the archetype for

Craig, 1. Paul’s words “I am not…” is the main key that the prohibition is a local situation since his prohibition is not tied to any law instituted in the OT. Since God’s laws are always clear, alwa

Hi Gazza, As far as English translations, here are three translations that list the verb as present and I am also going to copy the NASB with the note that the literal is the present “being”. > [Ep

Mark, It is interesting that you admit that the tense is not set as a past tense and the that it can be something that goes on and on and on if it is a participle. The grammar is present verb active

Peter, I see that you have replied again while I was finishing my response. I don’t know how much more I can respond tonight and I have a very busy week ahead of me as I let things slide while I was t

Craig, You also said: > 4 I know both egals and comps who can see the force of Cheryl’s argument from v15, and yet they still have difficulty accepting that v11,12 are speaking of particular indivi

#6 gengwall, > I also agree with truthseeker that “unbelieving” may have a broader idea in mind, and that is of any husband whose behavior is “unscrupulous, unfair or dishonest”, whether he is a Chri

@163 Kristen, You said: > But I still have some questions. First, are there any articles in Koine Greek equivalent to the English “this” or “that”? Yes. Houtos means **this** and you can find this

Gazza, Welcome back! I missed you! > You say that the knowledge of good and evil is part of being created in the image of God and was not a result of eating the fruit of the forbidden tree. In [Gen

Craig, Thanks for your questions. Under question #1: The Greek term asthenes can refer to weak or powerless. The grammar is “comparative” which doesn’t mean that this is her essence, but in compar

#22 Cindy K, > I intended to say more directly before that I don’t think that it is expressly “pagan” to believe that the “they” of [Genesis 1:27](logos4:///Bible/Ge 1.27) means that there was one pe

Lin, You said: This is because ‘desire’ is not a good translation and takes us into all kinds of error and problems on both sides of egal/comp. God warned Eve that she would turn to her husband an

Craig, I value your questions and I think that others do as well. The difference between you and some others who come here is that you appear to be genuinely interested in seeing both sides and you

Hi folks, wow, what a lot of good comments! I will be popping in and out as I am able since this is a really busy time for me. NN, you said: > And if you read what I wrote above – the proper use of

@227 Kristen, You asked: > Would Paul really be saying that only those women who claim to have maturity and are godly examples, should be dressing modestly? That only they should be focusing on inn

#70 Mark, You said: > However, why do you assume therefore that authority cannot exist? Why is it, that you actually contradict the meaning of this verb? The meaning of the Greek verb does not for

Paula #1, I disagree that the only reason for the wife’s submission is to win over an unsaved husband. [1 Peter 3:1](logos4:///Bible/1Pe 3.1) starts with literally “in like manner” linking it to wha

TL, E-sword has some good Greek tools. You can down load it here <http://www.e-sword.net/downloads.html> As far as hegeomai here are some lexical meanings. Unfortunately my blog won’t all foreign c

To continue to Mark, > Since this is the case, we ought to be very cautious of people who think they have a flawless exegesis of this passage. History should tell us otherwise. No need to be cautiou

#64 truthseeker, > She cannot logically be Eve, the ’saved’ cannot mean original salvation, so childbirth taking the meaning of ‘being raised up in the faith’ makes the most sense. In Paul’s epistle

LNE, You also asked: > How is it proper to render this imperative verb as merely permission to have her hair shaved, as if it said “If a woman is not covering her head, let her also be permitted [b

Mark, you said: > I have agreed with you that the present indicate can have a linear function. However as I have stated, that is not always the case. The context, adverbs etc determine it’s function

Mark, You said: > They are not identical so which one is TRULY Jesus words. I too agree that the spirit helped them remember, but i also relaise that the nitended audience of Matthew is not the int

Martin #26, > I’m just wondering why Paul didn’t mention women in particular in verses 1-7. The question then is why would Paul mention women in verse 11 but not in verses 1 – 7? I don’t know why Pa

Okay, I’m back and just going to catch up on gengwall’s comments that I didn’t address. Gengwall @210 you said: > Yes – I’m saying that maybe Paul wanted Timothy to understand vs. 11 and 12 to mean

Craig, Thanks for thinking out loud and answering your own question! Your answer is very good. I would only add an answer that is referenced in the passage but Paul saying (vs 14) And it was not Ada

Peter, you said: So, if “driving away” can be said to a physical, earthly rejection of anyone who would try to follow him – with wrong motivation, it takes on a different nuance than does the judgemen