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Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Warning: OT data consists mostly of examples, not direct teachings, making it difficult to derive rules.

Hermeneutical framework for OT examples

hermeneutics examples vs. teaching culture
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

The NT has direct teaching; the OT must be harmonized with it for a comprehensive view.

Hermeneutical framework for OT examples

hermeneutics priesthood comprehensive biblical view
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Counter-cultural examples like Deborah are strong evidence; but clear teaching (like on priests) is even better.

Hermeneutical hierarchy: examples vs. teaching

hermeneutics Deborah priesthood
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Aimee Byrd claims Deborah was 'the word of God to Israel' since they couldn't access Scripture — Mike says this is false; the Levites taught the law throughout the land.

Rebutting Byrd's claim about Deborah

Deborah Levites Aimee Byrd
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Mike's assessment: 'Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood' preaches well but continually distorts the text; egalitarian scholars' handling of Scripture drove him deeper into complementarianism.

Overall assessment of Byrd's book and the egalitarian case

complementarianism egalitarianism Aimee Byrd
Mike Winger idea 2022-03-28

Overall conclusions: egalitarians fail to make a positive case (partly by stretching Scripture); complementarians fail to rule out all women in all leadership.

Final conclusions from the study

Deborah complementarianism egalitarianism
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Full reading of 1 Corinthians 11:2-16 without commentary

Mike reads the entire passage from the NASB translation to establish familiarity before analysis.

1 Corinthians 11:2-16 NASB 1 Corinthians 11:2-16
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

The refutation/reputation view: Paul is quoting and refuting the Corinthians

Mike presents the third interpretive approach.

refutation view reputation view Corinthian quotations
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Seven problems with the refutation/reputation view

Mike systematically dismantles the refutation view.

1 Corinthians 11:2-16 1 Corinthians 11:2-16 Katherine Bushnell Alan Padgett
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Keener: kephale means 'source' or if 'authority' then only cultural authority

Mike details Keener's handling of verse 3.

kephale Craig Keener source meaning
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Question 2: Is Paul refuting rather than teaching? Examples of Corinthian quotations

Mike evaluates the refutation view more carefully.

1 Corinthians 6:12-13 Corinthian quotations Katherine Bushnell Alan Padgett
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Evidence that headship is transcultural: creation order, Ephesians 5, and the danger of cultural relativism

Mike builds his case that headship is not culturally bound.

Ephesians 5:22-24 1 Corinthians 11:8-9 Ephesians 5:22-24 1 Corinthians 11:8-9 cultural hermeneutics
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Verse 9 is the weak spot for egalitarianism: no decent interpretation exists

Mike draws his conclusion on the decisive question.

1 Corinthians 11:9 1 Corinthians 11:11 1 Corinthians 11:9 1 Corinthians 11:11 egalitarian failure
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Warning: head coverings can be a gateway into cults and weird teachings

Mike offers a pastoral warning to the head covering movement.

head covering movement cult dangers secondary issues
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 4: The Utter Silence View

Mike introduces the most strict complementarian view, which limits women from nearly all public speech in church.

complementarianism utter silence view women's speech in church
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Outline of the teaching: hinge points for each view

Mike explains his format for analyzing each view through key 'hinge points' that each view depends upon.

textual criticism hinge points methodology
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Pauline style argument for the refutation view: three points that fail

Mike addresses three ways proponents claim Paul would not have said what is in verses 34-35.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:8-10 Genesis 2 Gordon Fee Pauline style
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The refutation view has Paul rejecting submission -- something he teaches everywhere else

Mike points out that the refutation view would have Paul rejecting the concept of wifely submission.

Genesis 1-2 1 Peter 3 Ephesians (submission teaching) submission Genesis 1-2 1 Peter 3
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Problem with the education view: women were not so education-deprived in Christian context

Mike challenges the assumption that Corinthian women were significantly less educated than men in matters relevant to church.

1 Corinthians 12:2 Priscilla Apollos apostolic doctrine
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Paul spent 18 months in Corinth teaching men and women equally

Mike emphasizes the extensive Christian education Corinthian women had received by the time of this letter.

1 Corinthians 16:19 Apollos 1 Corinthians 16:19 Priscilla and Aquila
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Five possible interpretations of what kind of silence is meant in verse 34

Mike lists the options for what specific type of silence verse 34 commands.

Beth Allison Barr Craig Keener judging prophecy view
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

The doctrinal/theological nature of testing prophecy from 1 John 4:1-3

Mike shows that testing prophecy involved theological evaluation.

1 John 4:1-3 Mormonism 1 John 4:1-3 Christology test
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 confirms testing prophecy was standard practice

Mike provides additional scriptural evidence for the practice of testing prophecy.

1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 testing prophecy 1 Thessalonians 5:20-21 prophecy vs. scripture
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Elders have a natural role in judging prophecy due to their doctrinal guardianship function

Mike builds the case that elders must have been prominent in testing prophecy.

eldership doctrinal testing church governance
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Hebrews 13:17 and 2 Timothy 2:2 -- elders watch over souls and guard doctrine

Mike cites additional passages showing elders' responsibility to guard what the congregation receives.

1 Timothy 3:2 Hebrews 13:17 2 Timothy 2:2 elder qualifications 1 Timothy 3:2 Hebrews 13:17
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Titus 1:9 -- elders must hold firm to trustworthy teaching and rebuke those who contradict it

Mike shows the elder's role explicitly includes correcting false teaching.

Titus 1:9 eldership function Titus 1:9 rebuking false teaching
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Women can have the gift of discernment but are restricted in its public exercise during church governance

Mike addresses the objection that his view means women cannot have a spiritual gift.

1 Corinthians 12:10 1 Corinthians 12:10 gift of discernment church governance
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Brief refutation of the 'women as teachers' interpretation

Mike quickly dismisses the view that 'keep silent' refers to women teaching.

1 Corinthians 14 context women teaching view 1 Corinthians 14 context
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Conclusion 3: Christians must not despise what God commands about gender roles

Mike calls Christians to celebrate rather than resist biblical teachings on gender roles.

Proverbs 3:5-6 Psalm 119 (delight in God's word) biblical submission Proverbs 3:5-6 Psalm 119 (delight in God's word)
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Preview of upcoming videos: 1 Timothy 2:11-15 and final overview/application

Mike previews the next two videos in the Women in Ministry series.

1 Timothy 2:11-15 1 Timothy 2:11-15 women in ministry practical questions series overview
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Closing prayer celebrating God's word including teachings on gender roles

Mike closes with a prayer of trust in scripture's teachings on gender.

closing prayer delight in God's word cultural resistance
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Why Mike avoided the women in ministry topic for years

Mike shares the personal background of why he refused to address this topic for years, instructing his assistant Sarah to not send him questions about it.

complementarianism egalitarianism pastoral accountability
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Hard patriarchalist positions on restricting women

Mike describes the most extreme patriarchalist restrictions.

patriarchalism women voting women in education
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Egalitarians are fundamentally wrong about role differences but peripherally correct about abuse

Mike provides a nuanced summary of where egalitarians are right and wrong.

role differences egalitarianism abuse
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Pillar 2: Elder positions AND functions are for men only

Mike establishes the second pillar as more than just the title Elder.

1 Timothy 2:12 eldership 1 Timothy 2:12 teaching with authority
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

1 Timothy 2:12-13 is based on creation, not the fall or cultural circumstances

Mike emphasizes the creational basis for the elder restriction.

1 Timothy 2:13 creation order 1 Timothy 2:13 women and deception
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Qualified submission — not unqualified 'just submit woman'

Mike argues submission in marriage is qualified, not absolute.

1 Corinthians 7:5 qualified submission 1 Corinthians 7:5 marital dynamics
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Biblical examples help qualify how rules are applied — not just clear teachings

Mike introduces the role of biblical examples alongside direct teachings.

hermeneutics Samson biblical examples
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Summary of how examples push against strongest patriarchal views but fail to establish softest complementarianism

Mike previews his conclusions from examining biblical examples.

soft complementarianism application methodology
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Boss teaching employees confirms 1 Timothy 2:12 is specifically about church/elder context

Mike uses the boss example to confirm the limited scope of 1 Timothy 2:12.

1 Timothy 2:12 Proverbs 31 1 Timothy 2:12 Proverbs 31 church context
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Transition to detailed guidelines for women in ministry — defining church roles

Mike shifts to the church ministry application section.

women in ministry church roles elder definition
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

What distinguishes an elder from a non-elder: teaching AND having authority

Mike identifies the distinguishing marks of the elder role.

1 Timothy 3:2 1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 5:17 1 Timothy 3:2 1 Timothy 2:12 teaching with authority
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Deacon is a broad catch-all term — range of roles with varying authority, all below elder

Mike defines the deacon role as flexible.

diakonos deacon deacon roles
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Two simple principles for women in ministry: (1) greatly involved; (2) limit is elder function

Mike states the two governing principles for all ministry questions.

1 Corinthians 7 1 Corinthians 7 women in ministry principles elder function limit
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Easy cases: women as ushers — clearly permissible

Mike begins answering specific role questions, starting with easy ones.

ushers easy cases
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Easy cases: tech/media ministry, children's ministry teaching, food ministry — all fine

Mike quickly addresses several easy ministry roles.

1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:12 children's ministry women's ministry
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Unofficial teaching moments: Priscilla teaching Apollos (Acts 18:26) — women can correct men's theology

Mike uses Priscilla as precedent for informal theological correction.

Acts 18:26 Priscilla Aquila David
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Stage evangelism (Billy Graham style) overlaps into elder function — applies 1 Timothy 2:12

Mike distinguishes casual evangelism from large-scale public proclamation.

1 Timothy 2:12 1 Timothy 2:12 Billy Graham Greg Laurie
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Mary and Martha (Luke 10:38) — Jesus affirms theological learning over traditional hosting

Mike uses Mary and Martha as a key example for women's theological education.

Luke 10:38-42 N.T. Wright discipleship Mary and Martha
Mike Winger idea 2024-03-01

Women theologians writing books men read — permissible; Priscilla as precedent

Mike addresses whether women can write theology books for mixed audiences.

Acts 18:26 women authors Priscilla Aquila