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Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Hair length is probably a transcultural moral obligation; application to today

Mike draws practical conclusions from the nature argument.

Craig Keener hair length gender distinctions
Mike Winger idea 2022-11-11

Egalitarian interpretations of 'glory' all use two different meanings for the same word

Mike critiques egalitarian inconsistency with the term doxa.

Craig Keener doxa inconsistent interpretation
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Schreiner points 2-4: 'ought' implies obligation not freedom; vv.3-9 clearly about male headship; v.11 is a contrast

Mike presents additional arguments against the egalitarian reading of exousia.

1 Corinthians 11:10-11 Tom Schreiner opheilei 1 Corinthians 11:10-11
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Early textual variant substitutes 'covering' (kalumma) for 'authority' (exousia) in verse 10

Mike provides additional evidence from manuscript tradition.

1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:10 exousia kalumma
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Question 12: What does 'because of the angels' mean? Four views evaluated

Mike evaluates the four main interpretive options for this phrase.

1 Peter 1 Corinthians 11:10 Genesis 6:2 1 Peter 1 Corinthians 11:10 angelic observers
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Mike's preferred view: holy angelic observers who delight in seeing God's order in worship

Mike presents his conclusion on the angels question.

1 Corinthians 11:10 1 Corinthians 11:10 angelic observers worship context
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Question 13: The testicle theory -- Troy Martin's claim about peribolaion

Mike introduces the most controversial recent interpretation.

Mark Goodacre testicle theory Troy Martin peribolaion
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Martin's later paper shifts: claims he can establish testicle meaning from 1 Corinthians alone

Mike traces the evolution of Martin's argument.

Mark Goodacre straw man argument Troy Martin Mark Goodacre
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How the testicle view does NOT fit 1 Corinthians 11: five additional problems

Mike presents his own challenges to the view from the passage itself.

peribolaion Preston Massie testicle theory refuted
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Question 14: How does it apply today? The argument FOR transcultural head coverings (7 points)

Mike seriously engages the pro-head-covering position.

head covering movement transcultural application Elizabeth Farians
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The argument AGAINST transcultural head coverings: Paul never argues for the MEANING of head coverings

Mike presents his personal case for cultural application.

hermeneutical principle cultural vs. transcultural symbolic meaning
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Hair length IS probably transcultural since Paul argues for it directly from nature

Mike distinguishes hair length from head coverings in terms of ongoing application.

physis hair length gender distinctions
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The cultural view is not arbitrary: five facts support it

Mike defends his position against charges of mere cultural accommodation.

1 Corinthians 9:22 hermeneutical principle symbolic meaning cultural application argument
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Final conclusions: male headship is biblical, complementarian, and to be celebrated

Mike delivers his overall conclusions for the passage.

1 Timothy 2 1 Corinthians 14 1 Corinthians 11:3 women in ministry complementarianism eldership
Mike Winger idea 2022-12-04

Introduction of View 1: The Interpolation View

Mike introduces the first of five views, which argues these verses do not belong in the Bible at all.

1 Corinthians 14:34-35 textual criticism 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 interpolation theory
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Introduction of View 2: The Quotation-Refutation View

Mike introduces the view that Paul is quoting the Corinthians and then refuting them in verse 36.

1 Corinthians 14:36 quotation-refutation view 1 Corinthians 14:36
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Introduction of View 3: The Education/Clatter View

Mike introduces a cluster of related views that shift the focus from women per se to education or disruptive behavior.

education view clatter view Dionysus cult
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Introduction of View 5: The Judging Prophecy View (Mike's own view)

Mike introduces his preferred interpretation, which limits the silence command specifically to the testing/judging of prophecy.

complementarianism judging prophecy view testing prophecy
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Outline of the teaching: hinge points for each view

Mike explains his format for analyzing each view through key 'hinge points' that each view depends upon.

textual criticism hinge points methodology
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Bruce Metzger's explanation for the manuscript displacement

Mike quotes Metzger's view that the relocation was a scribal attempt to improve the passage's flow.

Bruce Metzger scribal alteration
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J.M. Ross quote: we must accept unanimous manuscript testimony

Mike quotes Ross on the obligation to accept what all manuscripts attest.

manuscript evidence J.M. Ross scholarly bias
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Interpolation View Hinge 2: Does the passage fit Pauline style?

Mike transitions to the second hinge point -- arguments that the passage does not match Paul's writing style.

1 Corinthians 12-14 1 Corinthians 12-14 interpolation theory Pauline style
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Style Argument 1: Verses differ from the main theme of 1 Corinthians 12-14 -- rebutted

Mike refutes the claim that these verses do not fit the theme of chapters 12-14.

1 Corinthians 14:40 1 Corinthians 14:40 Pauline style church order
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Four key Greek terms in verses 34-35 prove consistency with Pauline style

Mike identifies four Greek terms in the disputed verses that appear throughout 1 Corinthians 14.

1 Corinthians 14:28 1 Corinthians 14:30 Pauline style laleo sigao
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Two more key terms: 'en ekklesia' and 'hupotasso' found throughout the context

Mike continues demonstrating the passage's consistency with its surrounding context using Greek terms.

1 Corinthians 14:28 1 Corinthians 14:32 hupotasso Pauline style 1 Corinthians 14:28
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Style Argument 3: The verses logically contradict 1 Corinthians 11:5

Mike addresses the argument that these verses contradict Paul's earlier allowance of women prophesying.

1 Corinthians 11:5 1 Corinthians 11:5 logical contradiction argument women prophesying
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Style Argument 4: Paul would never appeal to the law to endorse church discipline -- rebutted

Mike addresses the claim that Paul's reference to 'the law' in verse 34 is un-Pauline.

appeal to the law law and Christian behavior Andy Stanley
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Paul appeals to the law in 1 Corinthians 9:8-11 as a direct counterexample

Mike provides a clear example of Paul using the OT law to establish principles for Christian behavior.

1 Corinthians 9:8-11 Deuteronomy 25:4 1 Corinthians 9:8-11 Deuteronomy 25:4 ministerial support
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Style Argument 5: The phrase 'churches of the saints' is un-Pauline -- rebutted

Mike addresses the claim that the phrase 'churches of the saints' is not a phrase Paul would use.

1 Corinthians 1:2 Pauline style ekklesia saints
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View 2 analysis: The Quotation-Refutation View and Beth Allison Barr's promotion of it

Mike begins analyzing the quotation-refutation view, noting Beth Allison Barr as a key proponent.

Beth Allison Barr The Making of Biblical Womanhood quotation-refutation view
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The RSV does not actually support the quotation-refutation view

Mike argues that the RSV translators were not trying to communicate what Barr claims.

1 Corinthians 14:33b Beth Allison Barr RSV translation 1 Corinthians 14:33b
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Extended analysis of the Livy passage shows different concepts than 1 Corinthians 14

Mike reads the broader Livy context to show it concerns political lobbying, not learning.

Livy political lobbying learning vs. requesting
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Greek hinge point: The disjunctive particle 'e' (eta) in verse 36

Mike examines the Greek word translated 'what' or 'or' in verse 36 that carries the entire weight of the refutation argument.

1 Corinthians 14:36 quotation-refutation view 1 Corinthians 14:36 e/eta (disjunctive particle)
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Paul never addresses the specific content he allegedly refutes

Mike highlights that if Paul is refuting verses 34-35, he never actually addresses any of the specific claims.

quotation-refutation view Pauline refutation style
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The disjunctive particle 'e' reinforces rather than refutes what precedes it, shown from Romans 3:28-29

Mike demonstrates how the Greek particle functions using Romans 3:28-29 as an example.

Romans 3:28-29 e/eta (disjunctive particle) Romans 3:28-29 rhetorical reinforcement
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D.A. Carson: every NT use of this particle in analogous constructions reinforces what precedes it

Mike presents Carson's comprehensive conclusion about the Greek particle.

Matthew 20:15 D.A. Carson e/eta (disjunctive particle) Thayer's lexicon
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The masculine gender of 'only' (monous) in verse 36 does not prove it addresses men specifically

Mike addresses the argument that the masculine word 'only' proves Paul is rebuking men, not the whole church.

1 Corinthians 14:36 1 Corinthians 14:36 D.A. Carson monous
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Pauline style argument for the refutation view: three points that fail

Mike addresses three ways proponents claim Paul would not have said what is in verses 34-35.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:8-10 Genesis 2 Gordon Fee Pauline style
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Paul already cited the relevant OT passages in 1 Corinthians 11

Mike explains why Paul does not quote a specific OT verse when saying 'as the law also says' in 14:34.

Genesis 2 1 Corinthians 11:8-10 creation order Genesis 2 appeal to the law
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What does 'the law' mean in 1 Corinthians 14:34?

Mike addresses the debate over what 'the law' refers to: Roman law, Jewish law, local custom, or the Old Testament.

the law Roman law Jewish oral law
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Paul uses 'the law' to refer to all of scripture, not just the Pentateuch

Mike argues that 'law' in Paul's usage can mean the Old Testament generally, citing 1 Corinthians 14:21.

1 Corinthians 14:21 Isaiah 28:11-12 John 12:34 1 Corinthians 14:21 Isaiah 28:11-12 John 12:34
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Positive case for the refutation view has nothing strong going for it

Mike summarizes that after examining all the positive arguments for the refutation view, none succeed.

quotation-refutation view
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Paul's quotation-refutation style in known instances differs dramatically from 1 Corinthians 14

Mike compares how Paul actually does quotation-refutation elsewhere versus what is claimed here.

1 Corinthians 14:34-36 Pauline quotation-refutation style 1 Corinthians 14:34-36
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Paul's consistent pattern: he qualifies Corinthian slogans with wisdom rather than fully disagreeing

Mike shows from multiple examples that Paul never fully disagrees with Corinthian slogans.

1 Corinthians 6:12 1 Corinthians 10:23 Corinthian slogans 1 Corinthians 6:12 1 Corinthians 10:23
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1 Corinthians 7:1 follows the same qualification pattern, not full disagreement

Mike provides another example of Paul's consistent style.

1 Corinthians 7:1 Pauline qualification pattern 1 Corinthians 7:1
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The refutation view has Paul rejecting submission -- something he teaches everywhere else

Mike points out that the refutation view would have Paul rejecting the concept of wifely submission.

Genesis 1-2 1 Peter 3 Ephesians (submission teaching) submission Genesis 1-2 1 Peter 3
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Introduction of View 3: The Education/Clatter View in detail

Mike begins analyzing the education/clatter view, which treats the passage as authentic but shifts focus away from gender.

education view clatter view cultural coincidence argument
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Craig Keener's version of the education view

Mike presents Craig Keener's more balanced version of the education interpretation.

Craig Keener Paul, Women and Wives education view
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Advantage of the education view: it explains the 'ask husbands at home' phrase well

Mike acknowledges the education view has one genuine strength.

1 Corinthians 14:35 education view 1 Corinthians 14:35 asking husbands at home
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Paul spent 18 months in Corinth teaching men and women equally

Mike emphasizes the extensive Christian education Corinthian women had received by the time of this letter.

1 Corinthians 16:19 Apollos 1 Corinthians 16:19 Priscilla and Aquila
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